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Old 11-04-2009, 09:02 PM
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Makes sense Dan. I'll give it a try tomarrow. Sometimes I focus on one thing so much that I miss the forest for the trees.
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Old 11-04-2009, 11:09 PM
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Re: handmades

Here is my first attempt at some Concave Fronts for my Colt. I guessed at my measurements and came up about 1/4" too short. I cut my material at 10-1/8" when I should have cut at 10-3/8"+.

I marked center and that was all. I didn't mark for my nails, I was mainly working towards a usable fit, and some consistency. I haven't worked with this material much, but I really liked it.


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Old 11-04-2009, 11:58 PM
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Nice go.

Im no expert but mark your toe nails about 1 1/2" from your center for a front pattern. When you have a proper shaped shoe your toe nails should fall in line with your heels. Speaking of heels The outside of your heels are very square. Try making a round heel like the radius of a nickel, then put your check in.
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:21 AM
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trevor,
what kind of anvil stand is that? or did you make it yourself?
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Old 11-05-2009, 11:36 AM
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trevor,
what kind of anvil stand is that? or did you make it yourself?
My Anvil Stand was made by Texas Farrier Supply. http://texasfarriersupply.com/prodde...dtripod&cat=41

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Old 11-05-2009, 05:41 PM
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Here is my first attempt at some Concave Fronts for my Colt. I guessed at my measurements and came up about 1/4" too short. I cut my material at 10-1/8" when I should have cut at 10-3/8"+.

I marked center and that was all. I didn't mark for my nails, I was mainly working towards a usable fit, and some consistency. I haven't worked with this material much, but I really liked it.


Might try skipping the 1/8th's and go in 1/4" increments. IOW, if you measure 10 3/8th, just round it up to 10 1/2". Works for me. Better to be a little long than short.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:40 PM
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Here are two that I forged today one is a hind preventer barshoe forged from 14" x 3/8" x 3/4" and the other is a concave lateral heel support shoe forged from 11 1/2" x 3/8" x 3/4" flat stock w/ inside cut out(concaved) On the preventer barshoe, it is just the poor lighting and the lack of my photography skills that makes the rolled quarter appear thinner; the foot surface has same section width throughout.
Did you mark the preventer off center? I have made the concave shoe. . If I remember correctly, it was terrible.

You look a little long on the medial. The heel is hooked in on the preventer.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:22 PM
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Did you mark the preventer off center? I have made the concave shoe. . If I remember correctly, it was terrible.

You look a little long on the medial. The heel is hooked in on the preventer.
Dan I think it stretched a little longer on the medial when I did the boxing and forged it back in. I offset it 1/8". The other thing on the preventer is on this one I came out like a normal hind and went back to try and straighten it but it would probably work out better to maintain the straightness right out of the toe bend. I watched Tom Farmer (the cultural exchange participant) forge one today and he looked at this one and that was his suggestion. I'm not sure about the hook you are seeing on the heel, I'll look at it tomorrow and check, it could be my photography skills lacking. The concave shoe is a little wicked, like I told Rick, I had to cut it out and fuller it around the toe before I could really set my toe b/c I haven't made a fuller yet to make that tight of a turn. Thanks for the comments.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:33 PM
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There both nice shoes. Just was wondering about the center mark. I always marked mine 1/8" off, like you, and it seemed a little long. The concave shoe is really nice. You should do a how to on that one.
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Re: handmades

Hey everybody. I haven't been around much, and not been taking pics either.

I had to re-weld the handle on one of my e-heads and did a torture test today to see if it held. This is what I made.

2 heats.





It's not pretty, but I made the pair in 10 mins. I wanted to see what I could do with just 2 heats.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:58 PM
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Hey everybody. I haven't been around much, and not been taking pics either.

I had to re-weld the handle on one of my e-heads and did a torture test today to see if it held. This is what I made.

2 heats.

It's not pretty, but I made the pair in 10 mins. I wanted to see what I could do with just 2 heats.
The torture testing may be why you are re-welding you punches, LOL.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:58 PM
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The torture testing may be why you are re-welding you punches, LOL.
LOL, yeah that could be. I think it's because I heat them to re-work them and I'm not exactly tempering them all that well.

Thankfully I think I'm figuring out how to punch a shoe and I'm not having to mess with my punches very often anymore.

Here's some from today. A 16" and a 15" from 3/8" x 3/4".



I don't fuller enough shoes, and it shows, my fullering is all over the place. It's been a few weeks since I've run a fuller and I'm just out of practice.
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Old 11-08-2009, 06:06 PM
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LOL, yeah that could be. I think it's because I heat them to re-work them and I'm not exactly tempering them all that well.

Thankfully I think I'm figuring out how to punch a shoe and I'm not having to mess with my punches very often anymore.

Here's some from today. A 16" and a 15" from 3/8" x 3/4".



I don't fuller enough shoes, and it shows, my fullering is all over the place. It's been a few weeks since I've run a fuller and I'm just out of practice.

Try to use wider stock. shoes that size look weak if youre doing narrow stuf like that...
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Cody,
Try marking your toe nails after you bump up the toe. If you mark them before you bump it, if your bumping is not perfectly centered, then it is going to put your marks off. Mark the center, bump the toe and make your toe bend. Set a pair of calipers at 1 1/4". After your toe bend, set one point of the caliper in the center mark and mark for your toe nails. This way both your marks will be exact from center.
You make a good point here Dan.

Would it be totally off base to bump your toe and then mark your center?

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Old 11-08-2009, 06:42 PM
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Try to use wider stock. shoes that size look weak if youre doing narrow stuf like that...
I agree this is on the narrow side for a 16" shoe, and I carry heavier stock for when I need it. I think it's accepable for a 15" though.

Most of my clients are in a 13-14" shoe or smaller anyway, so I don't do many in this range.
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