Chronic Laminitic Pony
 

Seedy toe in my chronic laminitic pony should NOT have been resected. Even though I have doctored her she has still abcessed. I beleive that the coffin bone is or has sunk and I beleive that it is because the toe was resected and the sole was thinned in that area (****) comments plz.

Now her sole and frog on it's own has come off all at once, this happened on the 13th. it was hard one day and then 2 days later it came off. she is in alot of pain. she has never thinned out on the top of her back she's always been so fat that you couldn't even palpate her back bone, this has happened in a day and a half I think that she has dropped 50 or 60 lbs. maybe more.

Re: Chronic Laminitic Pony
 

Was the pony shod or barefoot when she was resected? Is she shod or barefoot now? How much of the front hoofwall was removed?
Patty

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Patty, first, thank you for responding

She has been barefoot more than 12 years. The resection was in the extreme front a little less than 1 in wide and 3/4" up.
there is less than a 1/2" of the resection left, hooves are growing very well the resection was almost 2 months ago.

before the resection I started useing a natural trim practitioner which made my pony sound, surprizeing for her constant founder self. I noticed the streched whiteline and worried that maybe she had WLD like my TB and took her to the vet he had their farrier resect the toe. Dr. said no WLD. Home we went and less than 2 weeks she abcessed. I confined her to the barn and soked her foot 2 times a day til the abcess came through, it broke out at the coronet.
Suzi

Re: Chronic Laminitic Pony
 

If a large resection is done, the foot should be supported with a shoe and support pad (or a correctly applied heart bar) prior to the resection. Here isa picture of a resection large enough to require frog support. But in a meduim to large pony, a one inch wide resection is nothing really . I doubt a little bitty resection like that would have set off another round of bone movement (unless this is is a really TINY pony like a mini and one inch is a good portion of her hoof).
If the farrier also trimmed stoo much sole off the bottom (over the tip of the bone) it could have set her off some. However Since I have no way of seeing before and after pictures or Xrays to compare,there is no way to tell you how she was trimmed.
I should note that if the toe was stretched, the barefoot practitioner was missing part of the necessay trimming maintainance. The trimmer should be keeping the toe back where it belongs.
If the pony is still fat ,she may she well have just re-foundered because of that. .They never recover permanently until the metabolic issues get resolved. Relapses are common.
This is Just some general thoughts, as there is too much missing detailed information to tell you much.
For now, it sounds like she probably has a big sub solar abscess. I would sure be keeping her feet wrapped in supportive bandages with some dense foam inside until she regrows the sole. And a coating of ichthammol or magna Paste in the bottom of her foot will help harden the new ,soft sole material that should be underneath, and draw out fluid. And you must get her weight under control and her metabolism fixed if it out of whack or you can expect a lot of "down times" in between the "up times" . Patty

Re: Chronic Laminitic Pony
 

Thank you for the info and advice
As far as expecting more relapses, I get them every year since she was retired this has been going on.
her whiteline was already streched before the barefoot practioner took over. She was being taken care of by a farrier all these years and I never expected to find that he wasn't as great as his rep. Live and learn, but unfortunately at the expense of my pony.
I felt that the resection had caused the abcess. I will wrap her foot in a support bandage.

Re: Chronic Laminitic Pony
 

With just the information provided, I would expect that the pony has recurring issues/relapses.

The amount of hoof that was initially resected was minor and I agree with all of what Patty has said. the fact that two weeks after the resection the pony abscessed, is, IMNTBCHO, coincindental.

From the way your posting was writting, it appears that until the barefoot only practitioner took over your pony was not sound ever and that you blame the farrier for that. If it was the same farrier for 12+ years, why did you wait so long before making a change? And, the barefoot trimmer may have been lucky enough to work on the pony during a cycle where due to a confluence of luck and timing, the pony was not having recurrances.

And, absent any other pathology, I have never before heard of a horse dropping 50-60 pounds in 24-36 hours, especially one that is chronically fat.

Further, your beliefs not withstanding, absent radiographs, you have no way of knowing what did or did not go in inside the hoof capsule.

Did the vet agree with the resection?

While soaking the foot as you did may help vent an abscess, since it broke out at the coronary band, I'm not so sure the soaking had anything to do with it venting, but the soaking may sure have softened up the bottom of the foot enough for the entire thing to come off just as you describe.

Again, like Patty suggested, get some support on the bottom of her feet, and discuss with your vet the adviseability of painting on some sole toughner/hardner too.