Hindend issues..is it due to shoeing job?

[Beethoven]

I am posting this for my friend as she does not have an account. She has a 9 year old Trakner mare that has been NQR for some time now. Mainly hindend issues. She had her hocks injected a few months ago, which seemed to help at first, but she still seems NQR. She is now showing soreness in the SI area. She drags both hind feet, the right hind more than the left. The vet has been involved and does not think stifles even with the toe dragging.

I was looking at her feet today and always read on here about how important the trim is and was wondering what you thought of her feet.

She is at about week 9 as the farrier did not do her last week, so she is definatly due ASAP.

Here are the pictures of her feet:
http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ll/joy%20feet/

They were taking with my cell phone so not highest quailty, but we will take a digital camera out and get better shots if needed.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks in Advaced.

[calshoer]

All I get from the link is the mainpage to join photobucket?? Patty

[Beethoven]

Hmm..does this link work?

http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/jenmoll/joy%20feet/

[calshoer]

Well of course at 9 weeks there is certainly some long toe issues, so lets see how she looks just after a new shoeing.'
Even with the growth though, I am suspectng some unresolved negative palmer angles in the hind feet. (an inherent/genetic/developmental issue not the farriers fault but certainly fixable)
If that is the case, her compensating for the internal foot stress it causes would would indeed translate into strain and pain right up in to SA and psoas muscles of the back. (Dr.Joyce Harman)
Patty

[KarenStandefer]

Well of course at 9 weeks there is certainly some long toe issues, so lets see how she looks just after a new shoeing.'
Even with the growth though, I am suspectng some unresolved negative palmer angles in the hind feet. (an inherent/genetic/developmental issue not the farriers fault but certainly fixable)
If that is the case, her compensating for the internal foot stress it causes would would indeed translate into strain and pain right up in to SA and psoas muscles of the back. (Dr.Joyce Harman)
Patty
Here's an article about Dr. Harman and her thoughts on negative plane coffin bones and the effects on the horse's body:
http://www.wingedwolf.citymax.com/goodhorsekeeping.html

[Beethoven]

New pics after her getting her feet done.

http://s47.photobucket.com/albums/f193/jenmoll/joy%20feet/after%20trim/

Let me know what ya think. Thanks!

[Beethoven]

Any opinions?? good or bad thanks!!

[calshoer]

Its a neat tidy shoeing and I am sure the farrier is doing the best job he can exactly as he was taught, but it still has has some balance problems.
The probable negative palmer angle has not been addressed.
The toe is too long. And since the shoe is fit to the long toe, the end of the shoe is WAY too far forward of the tip of the frog , indicating a very stretched toe on the foot that needs correction.
The heels of the shoe are not far enough back.
IF this is truly a brand new shoeing, it appears the farrier did not adequately trim the hoof.
There is a lot of dead material still in the foot, which is probably throwing off the farrier's view of where things really need to be.
I woud get some lateral Xrays of the feet with this fresh shoeing on. Both hind fet will ned to bset on equal height blocks, with both legs squarely under the hosrse. Than the shope placement ,bone angle, toe length, oint alignment, basically everything that me be out of whack can be accurately 'blueprinted' and corrected.
Actually. looking at those feet and that ahoeing, if the envoronment is condisive to to barefoot , I would just pull off those shoes, roll the dickens out of the toe from about an onch back (like where the inside edge of the shoe is now) and let it be. I' ll bet you see imrovement in the horse's movement.
Patty

[Ruralhoof]

Is the mare always in overeach boots or were you working her?

[Beethoven]

Her owner was getting ready to ride her, but she does not usually live in them.

Thanks for the input. THe pictures were taken the same day the mare was reshod.