Bruising Revisited

[Jaye Perry]

We had a discussion months ago about whether problem up the leg or within the foot causes bruising due to lack of range of motion. here's a couple of pics of a Warmblood Jumper,17.1h, with flexural problems in fetlock and coffin joint LF.
Bruising in the horn is subsiding due to joint injections and addition of rim pads. Shod for only second time yesterday. Pic1 is medial, pic 2 lateral.

[Dave Purves]

Hey Jaye, what type of rim pads do you have on the horse? And do you think that, leather, or plastic would affect the foot differently? I guess this certainly proves a point. We'll see ya in a couple of weeks.
Dave Purves CF

[calshoer]

Do you have pics of the shoeing the horse presented with prior to your first one? I ask because you said this is only the second shoeing. I could not agree the change in padding or the injections had everything to do with the bruising subsiding since the shoeing could well have added other variables to the to the equation. For example a change for the better in hoof balance. Simply removing excess heel and /or rebalancing the foot medial laterally can also quickly eliminate the bruising in the quarters.
Patty

[Red Amor]

Hello Jay ,Patty.Dave

Is it just that the clips are jamming this particular horse up more so than many others in its line of work and the white hooves are showing uo the bruiseing more than others
could it be as simple as that , that the shoer before you had them too tight or belted **** out of the clips with hammer to seat them to the hoof wall angle after fitting and bruised the hoof them
Im not trying to be smart here just asking is all cause I dont know

[Ronald Aalders]

Hi guys,


Nice thread!

From reading the post I learned that the subsiding bruises are clinical findings. The bruises got less after joint injections and shoes, Jaye tells us.

Looking at the last pic posted it looks like the pastern of this horse is very steep with what looks like a too low palmer angle. The bruises like this can also be caused by a breakover that's to much delayed. P3 wants to rotate but the lever is to long so some of the laminae in the toe will tear, causing the well knows heamaglobin stains in the white line and the laminae at the quarters of the foot get torn too a little because they are forced to act like a hinge here.

If Jaye found the heamaglobin stains in the toe, you be looking at easing breakover on this horse.

BTW I think Red could have a point here too, if this is a thin walled foot. (Sure looks like it) Was the horse previously shod with clips too?


Ronald Aalders

[Jaye Perry]

This mare is over 17h, a jumper. She wears #7 Werkmans, with a hoof wall about 1/2" thick. She was presented with lameness in the LF, blocked out to the fetlock. Nailed exclusively in the quarters before i shod her (nailed in the quarters is nailed in the #2 nail holes back).

Dave- used a #5 Green Impact pad.
Red- Typical warmblood foot, nailed in the quarters before I started shoeing her.

Ron- bruising in the horn and in the solar portion of the foot indicated a stabbing way of going, which shows a lack of flexion.no disdention in the white just hematomic .At the 1st first shoeing , the original pair of front shoes removed showed horn indentations(or Channeling) from the heels on the foot surface side(s) to the 2nd nail holes. Channeling was even and bilateral, not unilateral This indicates lack of flexion in the fetlock and or coffin joint.