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[NHFarrier]

I think we should have a new thread catagory called "Look at the scary feet I saw today!" I am not sure where to post these pictures, but I guess hoof balance is a start!

http://www.greatmeadowfarm.com/Nugget1.JPG

http://www.greatmeadowfarm.com/Nugget3.JPG

http://www.greatmeadowfarm.com/Nugget6.JPG

Can anyone see these this time?

Amy

[Heavy_Horses]

can't see them but i'd love to. links don't work....

Troy

[NHFarrier]

Hope the pictures are visible this time... last one

http://www.greatmeadowfarm.com/Nugget2.JPG

I wanted to post these pictures for comments before I shoe this poor guy on Tuesday.

Amy

[Mike Bailey]

Hi Amy,
Have any after shots?

[NHFarrier]

I will Tuesday! ;)

[THamilton]

The toes are really long, the breakover needs to be WAY back, and there is a lack of support for the boney column. From the marks on the outside of the feet I am willing to bet that you will find some bruising. This type of foot leads one to really watch how much sole they remove as they often times are indicative of thin soled horses.

Is this horse a paint?

Let us know what you find?

thanks,
Tony

[danverschild]

...wanted to post these pictures for comments before I shoe this poor guy on Tuesday.

Hi Amy, I don't know that there's a lot to comment on here... but I love these kind. You've got enough growth that you can work with the foot and not have to resort to appliances. But there's not so much here that things are distorted horribly. In effect, I see these as a set of feet that you can "remediate" in one shoeing and look like a hero.

[Gary Hill]

Out of balance and way overdue! Best, Gary

[smitty88]

looks like you have 2 odd feet in front amy
a good trim im sure you can sort it

like to see a close up of the off fore
hard to see but looks like heel crack

if so its from tight and short shoeing

[calshoer]

We see those kind all the time around here in rural Colorado. (and the owner's wonder why they're stumbling and got diagnosed with caudal foot pain :rolleyes: )
You can be a hero with a little heel trim to remove the underrun, setting that shoe back where it actually belongs around the coffin bone and dress off the dorsal flare . It'll look and move like a new horse.
Be sure to not trim from under the toe too much, its decieving. When you find the sole plane you'll discover it is more heel and toe *flare* that needs trimming, not toe. Ill be waiting to see the
"after" pics.
Patty

[jamesrooney]

It would be nice, for me at least, to know the breed, age, and *** of this case as well as seeing the "afters."

[Rick Burten]

Hey Dr. Rooney,

If you'd of said 'gender', we wouldn't see the '***' and have to think about what it means. :D

Rick

[Phil Armitage]

Hey Dr. Rooney,

If you'd of said 'gender', we wouldn't see the '***' and have to think about what it means. :D

Rick

Now that is funny, that is exactly what I was doing. Not S E X, but trying to figure out what *** was. :D

[brian345]

looks like a nice place to work. how long since last shoeing?

[calshoer]

It would be nice, for me at least, to know the breed, age, and *** of this case as well as seeing the "afters."Because of the club foot ? Patty

[NHFarrier]

This is a 6 year old Appaloosa gelding, approx 14 hands, slim built. It has been two weeks since the last shoeing! Off I go.....


Amy

[THamilton]

2 wks :confused: looks like 2 months +

Tony

[smitty88]

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o112/smitty88_2006/charlie1.jpg
got this one to do last horse of the day new to the yard
he was not having the hot shoeing so i had to do him cold
he was bold and the lenth of his feet

[smitty88]

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o112/smitty88_2006/charlie2.jpg
one of those horses your woundering have i taken enough off

[smitty88]

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o112/smitty88_2006/charlie3.jpg

put a no 4 kerkart century on him
wish they would inprove them clips

[billylamp]

smitty88,
That is great looking everyday work. Keep up the great job.
Billy Lampley

[smitty88]

smitty88,
That is great looking everyday work. Keep up the great job.
Billy Lampley

thanks Billy

[Rick Burten]

Well done Smitty.

[NHFarrier]

Things are looking better for this guy, and what a nice pony too boot! Most all the observations that everyone posted were very accurate. He had an extremely thin sole. His heels were "mashed", cracked, thrushy and very underrun. I wasn't able to bring them back all the way to the widest point this time, but I have her on the schedule for 4 weeks.

The trim:
http://www.geocities.com/amy4_tinny/AftNugget.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/amy4_tinny/AftNugget1.JPG

The shoes: I did dub the toe a little, but I got carried away trying to get the flare! :(

http://www.geocities.com/amy4_tinny/AftNugget.3.JPG


Amy

[NHFarrier]

http://www.geocities.com/amy4_tinny/AftNugget4.JPG

http://www.geocities.com/amy4_tinny/AftNugget5.JPG

[NHFarrier]

Also, thank you Jaye for the idea of using the plastic flat pads as a rim pad. It worked really well in this situation.

Amy

[Rancho JD]

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o112/smitty88_2006/charlie2.jpg
one of those horses your woundering have i taken enough off

looks like 2 full nipper runs, can you charge for excessive hoof removal and or time and expect a repeat client.

[Rick Burten]

The shoes: I did dub the toe a little, but I got carried away trying to get the flare! :(

http://www.geocities.com/amy4_tinny/AftNugget.3.JPG

Nice job, much improvement.

I would have opted for an NB or NB style shoe and would have, particularly on the Rt. Front, set that shoe back at least to a point right behind where your second nail exited the wall(just infront of the front edge of the base of the clip. Probably would have done the same on the left. Then I would have just 'ramped' the overhanging toe back up out of the way.

It is clear that the upper portion of the hoof wall is growing in with a tight connection and steeper angle. the demarcation line is really visable. Setting the shoe where you did, you may find that the capsule at the toe will continue to be leveraged back into itself. If that proves to be the case, then you'll have to really push the breakover back to stop that from happening.

I would have considered using a frog support bar wedge pad(probably a #3) on the left front and though I think you have given the horse good heel support, I would have extended the support(especially if I were adding a wedge) to a point where a vertical line dropped from the bulb, intersected the ground. The RF heels look to be less run-under/more upright, and probably wouldn't need the wedge. Here again, I think you have provided pretty adequate heel support. I would have gone for a bit more, as described above.

Keep us posted on the horse's progress.

[smitty88]

Cheers Rick




Rancho JD i went round 3 or 4 times
as for the charge i dident charge extra

but had a word with the owner
to keep the horse shod more often

[Rick Burten]

as for the charge i dident charge extra
I too would not have charged 'extra'. I simpley would have charged 'more'. ;) :)

And my explanation to the owner would have been along the lines of " Well, because of all the extra work I have to do, it is going to cost you more. :)

Rick

[calshoer]

one of those horses your woundering have i taken enough offIf you removed all retained false sole, cleaned off exfoliating sole down to the shiny smooth layer, then trimmed just until the toe corners touched that sole , you took enough off. Parsonally I would have lowered the heels a bit more to bring them back more and further reduce the stress in the coronary band in the quarters.
Patty