Horse very sore after reset

[Peyton06]

Hello all,
Hopefully this is the place to start this thread....since I am a rookie please feel free to correct me! First of all I have been reading this forum for a month or so just absorbing all the information and am blow away by not only the knowledge here but kindness is sharing it!
Alright my question/problem.....my horse has had the misfortune of having a farrier allow his front and hind feet to get under run heels and after months of my requesting changes and being shot down or told I was wrong ect. I finally printed out the thread on here regarding underrun heels and how to correct them. Since it was other farriers he finally had the lightbulb go off so to speak. He followed the suggestions completely...taking the heels down, breaking back breakover, fitting the shoes to the heel bulbs..I'm summarizing but overall it was the most balanced my horse has moved in over a year....this was the first day.
It is now a week later my horse is still much more balanced but has had a huge pulse running from his fetlock to his hooves and has had heat around the cornet band. Even with icing, wrapping and packing so I had the vet out today for this and other issues and he felt that the change was too dramatic and now he is sore from it suggesting that I make styrophome pads/shoes for him to help with the hard summer ground and continue to ice and wrap...no problem ...my question is my farrier put wedges on without pads and if it a discomfort issue due to the ground being hard is there a way to add the correct type of pads now without removing the shoes?
A little more information in the reset/ trim....along with the underrun heels on all 4 the horse had a very noticeable high/low in front so when the heels were taken back the high foot was taken down a large amount...at least 1/2" and this was only 2 weeks after his last trim the new shoes for the front feet are 2 sizes larger than his last shoes ( which were 2 sizes larger than the pair 2 trims prior...hmmm now why would he have underrun heels?!?!? whole other thread) they have equal size wedges...the high foot is the more stressed now. Since my horse has been thru quite a few resets and short cycles in the last 2 months I am very worried about pulling these shoes now ( farrier will be here in a few days) to add pads and would like suggestions on ways to take the pressure off of his feet after the fact other than the pretty pink styrophome.
Thank you in advance!!!!!

[Rick Burten]

A little more information in the reset/ trim....along with the underrun heels on all 4 the horse had a very noticeable high/low in front so when the heels were taken back the high foot was taken down a large amount...at least 1/2" and this was only 2 weeks after his last trim the new shoes for the front feet ....they have equal size wedges...the high foot is the more stressed now.
So, if I understand this correctly, the horse is in a wedged heel shoe but nothing was done to support the frogs? A few things come to mind. The breakover may be incorrectly located. While dropping the heels is the correct thing to do, the horse may not have been given back enough heel, artificially, to keep him comfortable. The frogs are not being supported so it is quite likely the frogs are prolapsing and as a result, in combination with the other factors, you have a very sore horse.
Since my horse has been thru quite a few resets and short cycles in the last 2 months I am very worried about pulling these shoes now ( farrier will be here in a few days) to add pads and would like suggestions on ways to take the pressure off of his feet after the fact other than the pretty pink styrophome.
Well, there may be no alternative to removing and then properly building a shoe pad package that is more appropriate. Shouldn't be that big a deal if the farrier is careful and uses his crease nail pullers to remove the nails one at a time. Should everyone decide that this is not the route to take, then there are pour-in pads that will let you keep the shoes in place and still give the protection of a more 'traditional' pad.

[Peyton06]

Thanks Rick!!! Yes you have it 100% correct! Will the pour in pads offer as much frog support and traditional pads? Can anything be added with the pour in pad to offer the support?

OK I haven't figured out the copy paste mode yet...... Rick what are the other things besides the frog polapsing that would be going on to make my horse sore and how does that get fixed?

Until my farrier can make the changes are there any other things that I should be doing to help my boy and his feet?

THANKS AGAIN!!!!!!

[Peyton06]

Sorry one more question...
What would the appropriate pad package be? I had wanted my horse shod with wedge pads and a normal shoe but farrier refused soooooooo I need specifics. My farrier likes to modify instructions with the "I am doing the same thing but this works better answer" the more specific I am the less modifying there can be....if I have to I will request brand names LOL!

[Rick Burten]

Thanks Rick!!! Yes you have it 100% correct! Will the pour in pads offer as much frog support and traditional pads? Can anything be added with the pour in pad to offer the support?
If the pour ins are poured flush to ground level, they will offer more than a traditional pad unless that pad has a frog prosthesis ammended to it and then under neath the pad there is also some additional support material(impression material, EquiPak, etc). Nothing needs be added to the pour-ins if it is done correctly.
OK I haven't figured out the copy paste mode yet...... Rick what are the other things besides the frog polapsing that would be going on to make my horse sore and how does that get fixed?
Thin soles, incorrectly balanced feet, not enough heel support, breakover too far forward, the presence of sub-acute inflammation,
Until my farrier can make the changes are there any other things that I should be doing to help my boy and his feet?
Have you discussed with your vet, giveing your horse some bute or other pain relief medication?
What would the appropriate pad package be? I had wanted my horse shod with wedge pads and a normal shoe but farrier refused soooooooo I need specifics. My farrier likes to modify instructions with the "I am doing the same thing but this works better answer" the more specific I am the less modifying there can be....if I have to I will request brand names
Not the easiest question to answer, but, I might very well opt for the EDSS package9www.hopeforsoundness.com). That way the amount of heel height and frog support can be adjusted fairly quickly without having to remove the shoes to do so.

Other alternatives include a banana(rock 'n roll/ full roller motion)shoe, a 'rail' shoe(Redden makes one but I don't remember what its called: www.nanric.com).