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qualtrans
10-27-2004, 05:43 PM
An acquaintance was just raving to me about a product called Tildren. She is treating her 14 year old QH reining mare with it. She had basically given up on the mare being at all useful for work any more. Of course, she coupled the treatment with a serious upgrade in shoeing, the****utic shoes/pads, and aspirin as well.

Does anyone know anything about Tildren?

I have an 11 year old TB mare, home bred and raised, used as a field hunter. she was barefoot until she was 3, trimmed with some regularity. Kept in flat shoes. Prone to forge and pull front shoes, especially the right front. About 10 months ago, she became noticeably sore, the occasional ouchy step in work. Had her evaluated by a reputable vet clinic. Blocked sound on both fronts. RAdiographs showed some rough edges and an evulsion fracture on the left navicular bone.

We treated her by injecting both coffin joints, then applying flat pads with silicone packing under flat shoes with single toe clips. She was much more comfortable, once she adjusted to the injected fluid pressure in her feet. She has been working well, more comfortable going down hill, no stumbling.

But I worry about the future. We have discontinued jumping her. She made it clear before diagnosis she was willing to work but not to jump. She is receiving a joint supplement with Glucosamine, MSM and HA. Should I continue with what seems to be working, or look ahead to other treatments at such time as her condition deteriorates?

Appreciate any comments.
Cindy

calshoer
10-28-2004, 10:38 PM
Newer research has strongly indicated that navicular pain and eventual disease is closely (probably directly) linked to:
internal hoof imbalance, (coffin joint misalignment) ,
heels not adequately trimmed and becoming underrun,
lack of frog function,
and most important ,a breakover point too far forward relative to the coffin bone.
All of these issues also can cause the chronic shoe pulling because the foot is not moving out of the way of the hind feet effeciently. Part of this incorrect hoof movement is a toe first landing, which directly affects the impar ligament under the navuicular bone,(a main blood source for the bone) the coffin joint itself, and eventually the navicular bone.
If none of these things were assesed or addresed in the the****utic shoeing, then the addition of a flat pad will do absolutely nothing to help correct the situation in the long run.
As well, a toe clip does *nothing* to help navicular, nor will it help shoe pulling if the foot is not moving or landing correctly.If the toe of the the shoe was not rolled significantly, using the lateral Xrays as a guide as to how far to roll it, the clip only adds to the internal hoof stresses by preventing the breakover point of the shoe from being placed under the foot where it needs to be relative to the end of the bone.
Patty

ellenmoj
05-01-2006, 11:31 PM
Beware Tildren. It did NOTHING for my 14 year old QH gelding.

Ellen
Salinas, California
April, 2006