Lingo usage

[Gary_Miller]

Ok, you folks I'm lost with all you abbreveations and other laungae that is use by the farriers on this site make it hard for a layman like me to follow. I'm getting ready to take a shoeing course and have been reading some material on shoeing and can't find an yof this jargon in the books.
This is as bad as the military but atleast there I know what it was. LOL
so help me out what parts are you talking about when you use the term P1, P2 and P3. I'm sure it to due with the bones in the foot but I son't know which is which. I've also seen SDFT and DDFT as well as others.
So for my sake and those who are lost in the anatomy class please help me with these and any others that you use that maybe helpful. :confused:

Lost
Gary

[Ronald Aalders]

Hi Gary,

I see what you mean. But I'm sure I speak for everybody that uses those abbrevations we do not intend to exclude anyone. Its just that DDFT, (or as Dr. Rooney suggested, DF) saves a lot on typing. You just try to type Deep Digital Flexor Tendon a few times......

But I hope a list of meanings helps you out. You'll have to understand that although I'm happy to start this up I'm probably the least qualified to do so.
Also I'll probably forget a few, but I'm sure the other guilty parties will help out here.

I would encourage you to invest in a good book on anatomy! Knowing your anatomy is extremely important! I'm sure guys like Dr. Rooney can give some advise on what books would be suitable to start out with.

Here it goes:

P1: long pastern bone
P2: middle pastern bone
P3: coffin bone
DDFT or DF: deep digital flexor tendon
SDFT or SF: superficial flexor tendon
proximal: "closer to the heart" (Any other suggestions?)
distal: "further away from the heart"
medial: "closer the the long axis of the body" (Help!)
lateral: "more outside of that long axis of the body"

There are a lot more but for us as shoers we don't need them all since we usually just talk about extremities.

And to our Mr. Cyber Farrier Sir, maybe its a good idea to make a proper list here and add stuff like saggital plane, transverse plane etc. and have this "dictionary" on these boards somewhere. I can see it would help out a lot of readers! And while you're at it could you also try and explain the proper and efficient way to upload pictures???


Ronald Aalders

[sswhiting]

Well, I'm not a farrier, but I am kind of an anatomy and word geek and a horse professional so I'll add my two cents if I may.

Medial = middle, so a hoof defect on the medial side would be on the inside of the hoof, the part under the horse's body.

Lateral = outside, so a lateral defect would be easily seen without sticking your head btwn the horse's knees :D :p

Distal and proximal have to do with reference points, usually attachments or origins of ligaments for instance.
Proximal = closer to that point
Distal = farther away from that point

and I know that's not much help but it's hard to illustrate w/ words alone.

Get a good equine anatomy text and there should be a clearer illustration of what's what there. I don't know about you, but I have to see something to really understand it sometimes :cool:

[Red Amor]

G,day

Nice try Ron mate thanks for your efforts ;)

Millerg old mate you,ll pick up a lot during your course and through out the years you,ll read these boards and others like it

BUT you need to get a good book/s on the subject , tis the best was
welcome abord , and the very best of luck in your endevours .
Its an honourable trade steeped in tradition and history , enjoy the commerardry you meet along the way
mind how ya go mate :)

[Julie Plaster]

If you want a published dictionary for Farrier terms, this might help.

(http://web.cetlink.net/~farrier/DavePub.html)
10th Anniversary Special Edition
The New Dictionary of Farrier Terms and Technical Language http://web.cetlink.net/~farrier/DavePub.html (http://web.cetlink.net/~farrier/DavePub.html)

Julie :-)

[calshoer]

AND lest we not forget..there is a farrier dictionary and anatomy section right here in the horseshoes.com website!
Go to the horseshoes.com homepage, open the navigation menu bar on the left side of the page and click on eduational resources .You will find the anatomy and dictionary links. Patty
Any terms you still can't get the ,meanings, just ask. Someone here will help you.
If the medial -lateral terms are still confusing, (Ronald said "help") think if you drew a line down the center of the leg. Medial is on the inside half , lateral, outside.
Media lateral (ML) , means side to side.
AP(anterior posterior) means front to back. Dorsal -palmer is also sometimes used to denote front to back.
Patty

[Gary_Miller]

Great Help. Now I think I won't be total lost while reading these posts. I really apreciate your help. Not sure where this adventure will take me. Having recently retired from the Air Force I looking for something I would enjoy doing that makes it possable to set my own schedule and agenda.

I'm currently enrolled in college working on a drafting degree (needed to use up my GI Bill), and was looking for a school to learn how to shoe, but could not find anything close that would allow me to attend school and stay home with my family. Not willing to leave my family any more for a long lenght of time done that too much already. I had started looking at home study but could not find a course I thought was decent.

Anyway my luck turned when my farries came out the other day I asked him where he went to school it just so happened he went to the school I'm currently attending. I told him I had not seen a shoening class so he gave me the name of the instructor. Well I found the course they currently call it Basic Hoof Maintenance. It sounds like it will only give me the basics but I think I can go from there by reading and studing and asking lots of questions. Also the instructor is a local farrier so will give me a place to go for more instructioin or help. I'm good with hand tools and have a back ground in metal fabricatioin so think I can pick up on the blacksmithing portion of the job very quickly. Just need to get myself set up with the tools and a forge and get to practicing.

I'm hoping to get on as an aprentice with some of the current farriers around here so I can have some one to learn from also or atleast someone to ask questions to or pick thier brain. Sp if any of you folks around boise Idaho or onterio oregon would be willing to take on an apprentice please drop me an e-mail.

once again thanks for all you support and help. the information here is very informative even though sometimes it way over my head. kkBut I'll get there.

Gary