SpiritHorse
10-20-2005, 12:29 AM
This started in July when my now ex shoers trimmed our two youngest horses ages 9 and 2 way too short.
I treated them with bute and they seemed to get over it just fine.
Now comes the next scheduled appointment the last day of Aug.
Again the two barnicle brothers trimmed them WAY to short again even after I mentioned the last episode.
Well the girls went bad again...
On Sept 9 I called for our vet who could not be there so I called another one and here is what all he had to say. He did Xrays on both.
The so called founder the 9yo old had was basically grow out from the May incident when we didn't get her up fast enough, he said in no way could she be that lame from it and his diagnosis on both were that they were WAY to short which boggled both of us as we know this farrier and never had a problem before with him.
Our girls are trimmed like clockwork.
He had us keep them in the barn lot, padded feet, buted.
Well they were in there for weeks when the rains came and I didn't get the barn cleaned out in time and rocks appeared so I called and the other vet at that clinic said it would be fine to let them out. So I did.
(Our barn in a run in cow barn)
Well the seemed ouchy but better, well,,,,the xrays came back the 9yo had NO rotation but the filly did!!! Under 5* and to keep her padded and bute for a few days.
Okay.........I even did the water bit on them.
Well now I asked how long before the younger gal should have another Xray he said about 6 weeks maybe longer since she had little rotation.
Okay I waited and padded when needed, buted and even had to give them Isoxiprine because our vet thought they had now foundered. (Road founder basically from impact on the soles)
They are on NO grain, they get a couple handfulls of pelleted feed so I can get my older mare out of the front pasture which is small and they have hay.
He also thought the short hooves again were to blame for the flare up.
Well I had the 2yo re Xrayed yesterday the 18th and this morning found out it was way worse now and both feet are involved, he said it didn't look good.
I called him later to have him measure the rotation * why he didn't I have no clue he just eyeballed it as my husband called it*
Well, now I am dispondant over this, I did everything told to me even stuff like the ice and water etc... They are not on lush grass, no grain and again lame.
I have a certified farrier coming out, I have to call our vet and let him know the guy is coming to look at her xrays and that he has our permission to do so. Our regular vet said put heartbar shoes on her and the guy wants to look it all over first, can understand that...
The both of them only act ouchy not horribly lame, when they do they get bute and they come back out of the bad pain and I am beside myself believe me.
Neither lay down more than normal, no unusual shifting of feet, no stance only like they stepped on a big rock!
I seen a post here about a horse that went 16* I read that 12* means lame for life..I hope this guy can help no matter what the degree she is my only foal that lived and she is my buddy!!! :(
Providing she has only rotated under the 12* can she come back to at least some kind of life????? Even if only a pasture pet..
Also, when I padded the filly with diapers with a partially rolled one at the heel she was speed walking and later was trotting, bucking and just being her again.
So I am praying shoes will do the trick although it will take time to at least undo some of the damage as not all will recover if I read some of the posts here right.
Anything else I can do for my babies,,,,the full hoof styrofoam won't stay on and I think it did more harm than good in this particular case I don't know.
I treated them with bute and they seemed to get over it just fine.
Now comes the next scheduled appointment the last day of Aug.
Again the two barnicle brothers trimmed them WAY to short again even after I mentioned the last episode.
Well the girls went bad again...
On Sept 9 I called for our vet who could not be there so I called another one and here is what all he had to say. He did Xrays on both.
The so called founder the 9yo old had was basically grow out from the May incident when we didn't get her up fast enough, he said in no way could she be that lame from it and his diagnosis on both were that they were WAY to short which boggled both of us as we know this farrier and never had a problem before with him.
Our girls are trimmed like clockwork.
He had us keep them in the barn lot, padded feet, buted.
Well they were in there for weeks when the rains came and I didn't get the barn cleaned out in time and rocks appeared so I called and the other vet at that clinic said it would be fine to let them out. So I did.
(Our barn in a run in cow barn)
Well the seemed ouchy but better, well,,,,the xrays came back the 9yo had NO rotation but the filly did!!! Under 5* and to keep her padded and bute for a few days.
Okay.........I even did the water bit on them.
Well now I asked how long before the younger gal should have another Xray he said about 6 weeks maybe longer since she had little rotation.
Okay I waited and padded when needed, buted and even had to give them Isoxiprine because our vet thought they had now foundered. (Road founder basically from impact on the soles)
They are on NO grain, they get a couple handfulls of pelleted feed so I can get my older mare out of the front pasture which is small and they have hay.
He also thought the short hooves again were to blame for the flare up.
Well I had the 2yo re Xrayed yesterday the 18th and this morning found out it was way worse now and both feet are involved, he said it didn't look good.
I called him later to have him measure the rotation * why he didn't I have no clue he just eyeballed it as my husband called it*
Well, now I am dispondant over this, I did everything told to me even stuff like the ice and water etc... They are not on lush grass, no grain and again lame.
I have a certified farrier coming out, I have to call our vet and let him know the guy is coming to look at her xrays and that he has our permission to do so. Our regular vet said put heartbar shoes on her and the guy wants to look it all over first, can understand that...
The both of them only act ouchy not horribly lame, when they do they get bute and they come back out of the bad pain and I am beside myself believe me.
Neither lay down more than normal, no unusual shifting of feet, no stance only like they stepped on a big rock!
I seen a post here about a horse that went 16* I read that 12* means lame for life..I hope this guy can help no matter what the degree she is my only foal that lived and she is my buddy!!! :(
Providing she has only rotated under the 12* can she come back to at least some kind of life????? Even if only a pasture pet..
Also, when I padded the filly with diapers with a partially rolled one at the heel she was speed walking and later was trotting, bucking and just being her again.
So I am praying shoes will do the trick although it will take time to at least undo some of the damage as not all will recover if I read some of the posts here right.
Anything else I can do for my babies,,,,the full hoof styrofoam won't stay on and I think it did more harm than good in this particular case I don't know.