glue on shoes

[curtis B.]

I have a question on the glue on shoes-
I have put the sigfoos glue ons on a race horse that i do and they work very well i have no problems with them and like them very much-
The trainer of this horse was asking me about using the equithane adhere
on the raceing shoes- A friend of his was telling him of the adhere and it worked well -

I was wondering if anyone has used the adhere on any jumpers or any performance horses and have had luck-
I have used it on foundered horses or pasture pets but never on any performance horses-
I would appreciate any input -

curtis

[J.H. shoeing]

Curtis

I have "glued" several shoes on with the Adhere, and have had good luck with it. I think you really have to have the foot prepared right, along with the shoe. I "glued" one on a fairly low level jumper on Monday and he has been going well.

If you can two nail him and draw good clips to stablize the shoe, you can keep that shoe on good.

I like to have a helper when I use the adhere and wear rubber gloves, it takes a week for the adhere to wear off your hands.

I have not "glued" on any race plates with it,but have used it on several aluminum and light steel. I will run my stud hole drill bit thru the shoe in a couple of spots also to help the adhere get thru the shoe. I also use a heat gun on the foot immediately before appling the shoe, to dry the foot out. I found that the moisture made a difference as to how well it would stay on especially without any nails.

I have a client that I "glued" one on for and the horse was kept outside in a small turnout. They rode the dog out of that horse in all kinds of conditions mud, water, gravel, hard packed ground, and in the arena. I used three clips, two slim nails, and the adhere and it lasted a whole shoeing cycle.

Of course I have had some call me before I got home saying that they lost a shoe too. I think those were hoof prep problems.

It is kind of a gamble.

Jeff

[Phil Armitage]

Hi Curtis, I have use the Adhere and it does work if you get the foot dry and clean and the shoe clean. Works better on aluminum and rough up the surface of the shoe, if it is too smooth the Adhere doesnt bond to it too well. Drilling holes like Jeff said in the toe and each heel helps. Vettec makes little spacer that are adhesive that you can put one on each side of the toe and heels, squirt a bead of glue about a 1/4 wide and thick from heel to heel and emidiatly press onto the foot. Go around the inside of the shoe with your finger and fill in the nook and crannies and also do this around the outside of the shoe completely around the heels seal it right up. Helps to wear gloves, but I usually get the rubber gloves stuck to the foot then I pull the glove off and use my finger, it does take a week for it to come off your finger. Like Jeff said if you can get a couple of small nails in the foot it does help, clips help. I glued an aluminum NB shoe with a Myron Mclean frog support pad on my paint with no clips last week and it is still on. I did use some fiber glass cloth about 2" wide on each side of the shoe and glued it to the foot, made a big mess but it is still on. Just experiment with it. Do not use Acetone to clean the foot or shoe, Denatured Alchohol works best. I use break cleaner on the shoes, drys quick and does not leave a residue. Only clean the foot with denatured alcholol if there is a hoof dressing, oil or grease on the foot other wise even the alchohol is too much moisture. Hot Air gun just before glueing it on helps. Make sure the horse doesnt mind the sound and presence of the gun and cord. :eek:

[J.H. shoeing]

hey Phil

The Vettec guys are saying not to use the denatured alcohol anymore. It drys the foot but it pulls something out of the foot and the composite bonds with it and does stay on as well. I have seen what they are talking about with some of my deals. If you clean with the denatured alcohol and the shoe package comes off you will notice that the adhere will have this white residue on it where it was on the foot. I think they explained it to me as fats coming to the surface and the adhere bonding to it.

This would be way mo betta splaned be the Vettec guys, than me.

Before you ask I can't remember how they said to clean the foot, to get the greasey junk off of it.
Jeff

[curtis B.]

thanks for all the info Phil Jeff, and JH shoeing i do appreciate the info
I like your idea of the fiber glass clothe phil that sounds like it will work
again thanks for the help

curtis

[mwmyersdvm]

I shoe a police horse that is really hard on his shoes as well as really bad hooves. I use the Dalric cuffs as the glue on portion and then attach whatever I need to this before application. On one really bad hoof I let it grow for 11 weeks before reset and it was still a challenge to remove it.

[Ben-Sturman]

If you don't want to wear the adhere on your hands for that week, go to the local corner drug store and buy a pumice stone that women use to basically sand thier feet. Just use it under hot water in the sink or shower and it takes the adhere off very easily. It also helps smooth out the rough spots from calouses and rasp scratches. My wife doesn't seem to mind a little late night snuggling then.

Ben

[J.H. shoeing]

I'm going to get a piece of the rock.
Jeff

[curtis B.]

Just wanted to update you on the glue ons
I used the equithane adhere on the racing shoes
and Phil i took your advice and added the fiber glass clothe and it worked out well- The horse had a workout yesterday in boston at suffock downs and came back with both shoes
thanks again for everyone's input-

appreciated it
curtis brown

[Phil Armitage]

Here is a picture of my horse 4 year old Paint always had bad feet, glued on aluminum eventers yesterday. Used the black adhere on white feet. :) I did not use the fibreglass cloth this time. I did use equipak with the mesh, because he is sore, very thin soles and hoof walls, nothing to nail to. While putting on the mesh I got an idea to use a wire mesh and have an excess of about and 1 1/2" that I can form as a cup and apply glue to the wall and this will help hold the equipak in. The key to useing Adhere is to get the foot clean rasp and sanding block works good and dry with a hot air gun.

He is running around in these big time. :D

[Dave Whitaker]

Just be sure not to use the Adhere with the sigafoos..... there is something in their cloth that makes the two incompatable...learned the hard way....You would think they, (Sigafoo), would warn you wouldn't you? What they supply with their kits is Equilox.

[curtis B.]

thanks for that info hoofmender i was actualy wondering about that one!!