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805farrier
09-25-2009, 03:19 PM
The story ...

I've been doing this horse for a while and the feet have been looking better every time. The horse was being worked 5-6 days a week and was going great, I guess he had a history of off and on lameness. This whole time he was bare foot. About 8 weeks ago now, after being worked HARD he took a funny step (semi-tripped) and has been off on the foot he caught himself on, the RF.

What we know-
-His x-rays are clean (nav. and p3)
-He blocks out to his foot
-No reaction to hoof testers excpet a slight reaction on the medial heel (nothing when the heels are squezed together or over the frog)
-Lame for 8 weeks now but has gone from about a 1 to a 3 on any given day without much of a pattern.
-Put shoes with pads on and nothing changed
-Pulled shoes and nothing changed

Please let me know waht you guys think!

Thanks,
Tony

Pictures were taken today, about 3 weeks from his last trim and the chunk missing on the medial side is from the nail holes on the shoes!

http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=330&pictureid=2502
http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=330&pictureid=2501
http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=330&pictureid=2500
http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=330&pictureid=2499
Phil Armitage
09-26-2009, 10:01 AM
Looks like a balance issue to me. Medial heel looks high and the heel bulb is starting to shear.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/Phil_037/user8412_pic2501_1253905384.jpg
805farrier
09-26-2009, 10:13 AM
Hi Phil,

Thanks for the response. I wish I had before pictures on this horse but the heels were severly sheared before. We finally had his feet close to balanced and then he takes this funny step and has been off for almost 9 weeks now.

He was worked 5-6 days a week for at least 5 months with the heels in ALOT worse condition. Think that would still be it, or do you have any other thoughts?

Thanks,
Tony
Rick Burten
09-26-2009, 04:42 PM
It could be an injury to the impar ligament or at the insertion of the DFT.
805farrier
09-26-2009, 05:53 PM
It could be an injury to the impar ligament or at the insertion of the DFT.


Thanks Rick,

What would be the best way to go about diagnosing this (other than an MRI hopefully)?
cynthia-jay
10-09-2009, 05:36 PM
sheared heels can be moved independantly of each other by hand

they are quite painfull

your bringing the hoof "back into balance" could also have an effect on lameness/pain as the structures change

some horse are sheared "naturally" ...it is their way of going

old horsemans trick to detect "navicular syndrome" is to place a wedge at the toe of the hoof and lift...a reaction usually indicates navicular syndrome

the horse also appears to be contracted

usually. a bar shoe is applied to stablize the shearing action/movement

re-access your balance on where each hoof should be/balance the horse up and roll with the punches

This old nag has a front end issue and as you can see , also rear end issues as well as other issues

this is a rescue...:confused:

as always

c jay
cynthia-jay
10-10-2009, 11:42 AM
I borrowed this hoof photo (the good one) :D

picture perfect

if the poster of it is offended, I apologise

a photo as such can be worth a thousand words;)

good luck

as always

c jay
805farrier
10-30-2009, 08:50 PM
Well ... it ended up being a high spur on the inside of the medial splint bone rubbing on the suspensory, in case anyone was wondering! Thanks for all the input!

Tony Knust
Ray_Knightley
10-31-2009, 03:59 AM
Well ... it ended up being a high spur on the inside of the medial splint bone rubbing on the suspensory, in case anyone was wondering! Thanks for all the input!

Tony Knust

Thats great ...will keep that in mind on one I have on my books....Hope I get a few % when the vet looks:D
Rick Burten
10-31-2009, 08:55 AM
Glad its not in the foot. Did you get to see the radiograph and is there a chance you could post a photo of it. I don't know that I've ever seen a bone spur such as you describe on a splint bone.

Rick
805farrier
10-31-2009, 10:48 AM
I met the vet out there with the owner and saw the digital x-rays of the feet but had to leave for my next appointment before they got any higher. I will see if I can get ahold of the cd of have the client e-mail them to me!
Cyber Farrier
10-31-2009, 10:50 AM
Cynthia, you need to sign your posts with your full name.

Baron
cynthia-jay
10-31-2009, 10:58 AM
Sorry Baron,

I did not notice your posting of "signing your name" untill a later date

after this posting and some others

Cynthia Jay:)
Cyber Farrier
10-31-2009, 11:08 AM
Is "Jay" your last name?

Baron Tayler
cynthia-jay
10-31-2009, 11:21 AM
yes sir, it is

do I sign differently?

is C Jay OK?

blood type=ab+/no tatoos/or identifying birth marks

anything else oh Baron of the Forums?

Cynthia Jay:D
Cyber Farrier
10-31-2009, 11:38 AM
Anything else oh Baron of the Forums?

Cynthia Jay:D

Nope. That'll do. Thanks.

Baron Tayler