Homemade stall jack

[NorvalWilhelm]

This is not new but it works for me. It is make from a 2 inch thick slab of stainless I had kicking around. I added all the features I thought I would need and if anything didn't suit me I changed it. It has a sturdy set of turning cams, sturdy pair of pins through which a shoe fits nicely, a hole and on the other end a horn of different sizes to expand a shoe.
It doesn't ring or bounce and while sturdy is still easy for me to take to the horse. The pit marks on the surface are from 20 years of straightening shoes with borium on them
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http://i32.tinypic.com/kcnehy.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/fcvar4.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/9ggfit.jpg

[cowboy_bc]

Hi all,

How fortunate you are that you can't forge a shoe and you only have to straighten them.

Kevin

[Travis Reed]

Norval
I don’t care for your shoeing or attitude and I don’t think I have ever been shy about it, but with that said I do think you have a place in the farrier industry making gadgets…. I truly think you have wasted many years shoeing horses when you should have been making gadgets…that’s the 2nd stall jack I have seen you make…I challenge you to make a full blown anvil with all the accessories…I look forward to seeing it when your done..

[Tom Stovall, CJF]

My old stalljack is not near as fancy, but it beats using a truck bumper to flatten a shoe and the trailer ball hole to hook a heel - which some of us have done at one time or another.

http://www.katyforge.com/stalljack_top.jpg

The face is O/A cut from 1" A-36 plate and the tripod was fabricated from 5/8" sucker rod. It's 18" tall and the face is 3" x 5" with a 1/4" bead of 7018 across the heel. A block or sticker will fit through the hole and it weighs a bit less than six pounds. I built it about 30 years ago and I still think it's as handy as a pocket on a shirt.

It's been a while since I've been under a runner - I had to take the electric hot rasp to it to get the rust off. :)

[NorvalWilhelm]

Norval
I don’t care for your shoeing or attitude and I don’t think I have ever been shy about it, but with that said I do think you have a place in the farrier industry making gadgets…. I truly think you have wasted many years shoeing horses when you should have been making gadgets…that’s the 2nd stall jack I have seen you make…I challenge you to make a full blown anvil with all the accessories…I look forward to seeing it when your done..

Making gadgets is only for fun. I made alot of gadgets for the corvette as another hobby. I can usually fabricate anything I put my mind to. AS for my attitude I just don't think I am worth as much as alot of you think you are.

[NorvalWilhelm]

Hi all,

How fortunate you are that you can't forge a shoe and you only have to straighten them.

Kevin

Kevin I would love to see any of your work. Anything. Regardless of what it is. I could show you dozens of things my talent produced. That motor on the left is one of them.

[Tom Stovall, CJF]

NorvalWilhelm in gray

Kevin I would love to see any of your work. Anything. Regardless of what it is. I could show you dozens of things my talent produced. That motor on the left is one of them.

I'm not Kevin, but speaking for myself, while you are doubtless talented in many areas, farriery ain't one of 'em. As I see it, you are merely a dilettante amongst professionals on this forum and would do well to temper your attitude. You have a Corvette? Great! You can build boat anchors... er, "stalljacks"? Great! Unfortunately, none of that counts for squat when it comes to shoeing horses. You shot yourself in the foot when you made your brags about how long your shoes stay on. [Extra credit: Why?]

[NorvalWilhelm]

NorvalWilhelm in gray

[COLOR=Gray]
You have a Corvette? Great! You can build boat anchors... er, "stalljacks"? Great!
. [Extra credit: Why?]

I didn't say I just have a corvette. I just about built one, nearly every peice is hand made and that boat motor is the one in that hand built car. Other then parts of the body you would be hard pressed to find an original part.
I am sorry if my shoes tend to stay on for a full cycle or I guarantee their replacement regardless of reason for a lost one. What's wrong with providing a guarantee.
All my work is guaranteed, satisfaction guaranteed or you don't pay and if you do pay I guarantee the full shoing cycle.

[Travis Reed]

Norval
AS for my attitude I just don't think I am worth as much.........................


Mr Norval thats the only fair statement i have seen you make on this site

[Tom Stovall, CJF]

NorvalWilhelm in gray

I didn't say I just have a corvette. I just about built one, nearly every peice is hand made and that boat motor is the one in that hand built car. Other then parts of the body you would be hard pressed to find an original part.

Good for you - you may be a helluva car mechanic, but you ain't a farrier.

I am sorry if my shoes tend to stay on for a full cycle or I guarantee their replacement regardless of reason for a lost one. What's wrong with providing a guarantee.

If you're silly enough to take responsibility for something over which you have no control, there's nothing wrong with if it makes you happy. In effect, you're taking responsibility for your client's husbandry, but you're a dilettante, not a pro.

All my work is guaranteed, satisfaction guaranteed or you don't pay and if you do pay I guarantee the full shoing cycle.

Silly me, I've never guaranteed anything to a client except that I'd do my absolute best to do whatever was necessary to give the horse whatever it needed to do whatever it did as best it could possibly do it. Quite arrogantly, I figure that when I nail a horse up, the shoes are applied correctly; how long they stay on is a matter of husbandry. :)

[Red Amor]

Novel Mat eyou sure are one clever and talented crazybastard yeah :eek::p;)
good onya mate ay

[cowboy_bc]

Kevin I would love to see any of your work. Anything. Regardless of what it is. I could show you dozens of things my talent produced. That motor on the left is one of them.

Norval,

I'm guessing I've ran a thousand times more weld bead than you have, but just a guess.

Kevin

[cowboy_bc]

Kevin I would love to see any of your work. Anything. Regardless of what it is. I could show you dozens of things my talent produced. That motor on the left is one of them.

Hi all,

Oh the other thing is I actually have a mechanics license and an inter provincial and way back in 1974 until 1978 I worked in a shop where we rebuilt 4, 6 8 and 12 71 and 92 series Detroit diesel engines, blowers etc and I had at least 1 a day down to bare block so I can't guess how many I worked on (seems to me we dyno-ed 3 a day) but any thoughts that you might know more about 71 blowers or engines in general l'd love to hear them . . . .

Kevin

[Cyber Farrier]

Making gadgets is only for fun. I made alot of gadgets for the corvette as another hobby....

I don't understand the attitude being directed at Norval. He simply posted a few photos of a gadget that he fabricated. He does it for fun. He made no comments about being better or more talented than anyone else. He didn't make any comments about his farrier skills. Nothing. Just posted photos of something he made for fun. Yet some people jumped all over him with comments disparaging his shoeing skills, and just generally badmouthing him. Why? Nothing better to do with your time?

If you don't think it has any use, don't comment. If you like it, give it a nice comment. There's no need or reason to pound on him for showing what he does for fun.

Some of you just don't have ANY idea where the line is.

Baron

[cowboy_bc]

Baron,

Oop's your right not the time or the place (darn where's my master list of all the disparaging things Norvall's made about working farriers when I need it) won't happen again.

Kevin

[Clint Burrell]

stuff deleted[QUOTE=Tom Stovall, CJF;173986]My old stalljack is not near as fancy, but it beats using a truck bumper to flatten a shoe and the trailer ball hole to hook a heel - which some of us have done at one time or another.

http://www.katyforge.com/stalljack_top.jpg

I built it about 30 years ago and I still think it's as handy as a pocket on a shirt.

I had to take the electric hot rasp to it to get the rust off. :)

Mr Tom,
Looks a lot like mine!lol Mine's made to go in the top of the hoof stand though. Easier than trying to drive the spike through the concrete isle.:D Would have to use the lectric hot rasp on mine as well. They're bout the same age though, last decade or so mines done more burr sets in leather than shoein!
Don't be so hard on the ol bumper,I got a Reese stub modified into a stall jack! Real handy for a "quickie"

[cuttinshoer]

Norvall nice looking deal, try preheating your thicker steel before you weld it your welds will come out with better penetration, probably won't matter though on a stall jack. I bet you welded the cam on the left second. push don't pull your gun.

Justin

[Bradley-1stChoice]

Nice, but at 50lbs + it is more like an anvil, sortta . . . :confused:

I thought a stall Jack was meant to be portable.

I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment. :p

[Gary Hill]

Nice, but at 50lbs + it is more like an anvil, sortta . . . :confused:

I thought a stall Jack was meant to be portable.

I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment. :p

Bradley, you one funny guy!:D

[NorvalWilhelm]

.

I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment. :p

I actually have a tool made up for rockering toes. You know that already but it works slick so where is the harm??
I can rocker a toe anywhere I want, precise as I want and all in a few seconds.

[Bradley-1stChoice]

I actually have a tool made up for rockering toes. You know that already but it works slick so where is the harm??
I can rocker a toe anywhere I want, precise as I want and all in a few seconds.

No harm Slim,

But can you do it quickly on your stall jack at the horse . . . :D

I mean that is what a stall jack is for,
quick adjustments at the horse . . . Yes ??? No ???. :cool:

================================
So Mr. Wilhelm
Here is a helpful hint/tip, and it starts with
You tend to be very defensive in all of your posts,
It can come across as anger.
So some people jump all over you, and
some of us just have you on our ignore list.

Yes I know you have a Rocker Toe Machine,
and yes I was only Ribbing/teasing/funning you.

So with that in mind, you might look at lightening up some,
I could/would do your heart and mind good. :)

[Tom Stovall, CJF]

Cyber Farrier in gray

I don't understand the attitude being directed at Norval. He simply posted a few photos of a gadget that he fabricated. He does it for fun. He made no comments about being better or more talented than anyone else.

Baron, I understand you have to be mediator as well as moderator, but there are two sides to every proposition and Norval has made some extremely condescending statements in the past, the most insulting of which imply working farriers are routinely gouging their clientele.

He didn't make any comments about his farrier skills. Nothing. Just posted photos of something he made for fun. Yet some people jumped all over him with comments disparaging his shoeing skills, and just generally badmouthing him. Why? Nothing better to do with your time?

Personally, I don't handle condescension very well. In the real world, the quality of farriery is not related to how long a shoe stays on or how much the job costs - and a farrier's morality is damn sure NOT related to his willingness to subsidize owners' luxuries.

If you don't think it has any use, don't comment. If you like it, give it a nice comment. There's no need or reason to pound on him for showing what he does for fun.

In the nomenclature of farriery, a "stalljack" is a light, portable anvil that's usually moved from hoof to hoof during the course of shoeing. While I'm sure his masterpiece may have many uses, it sure as hell is NOT a stalljack.

Some of you just don't have ANY idea where the line is.

I apologize for segueing into ad hominem, but it takes two to tango. Insult farriers, insult me.

[Cyber Farrier]

Baron, I understand you have to be mediator as well as moderator, but there are two sides to every proposition and Norval has made some extremely condescending statements in the past, the most insulting of which imply working farriers are routinely gouging their clientele.

I appreciate your understanding. (Really!!) But we must strive to keep things in context, and compartmentalized by thread topic. Or all would be chaos. Norval's comments in other threads aren't relevant to this thread. This thread is about a gadget that he built as a hobby. Bringing in other "baggage" serves no purpose and is wrong. When he makes disparaging comments, then you're "in the right place," and by all means comment. But he didn't in this thread, and nobody should have.

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In the nomenclature of farriery, a "stalljack" is a light, portable anvil that's usually moved from hoof to hoof during the course of shoeing. While I'm sure his masterpiece may have many uses, it sure as hell is NOT a stalljack.No one is debating whether or not Norval's gadget is really a stalljack. I think it's a morphed anvil thingy. But that's my opinion. If it makes him happy to call it a stalljack, who really cares? Still, it is an interesting somethingorother.

I apologize for segueing into ad hominem, but it takes two to tango. Insult farriers, insult me.No argument concerning your last sentence. But in this particular case he didn't insult anyone, and therefore did not insult you. So I see no reason that you, or anyone, should "pull" the thread in that direction just to beat up on him for other perceived sins.

OK, back behind the curtain....

Baron

[Ray_Knightley]

This is not new but it works for me. It is make from a 2 inch thick slab of stainless I had kicking around. I added all the features I thought I would need and if anything didn't suit me I changed it. It has a sturdy set of turning cams, sturdy pair of pins through which a shoe fits nicely, a hole and on the other end a horn of different sizes to expand a shoe.
It doesn't ring or bounce and while sturdy is still easy for me to take to the horse. The pit marks on the surface are from 20 years of straightening shoes with borium on them
http://i26.tinypic.com/2z6tg1u.jpg
http://i32.tinypic.com/kcnehy.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/fcvar4.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/9ggfit.jpg

On days off you could put a saddle on it .mulzi funktion,groovy ding das ding!!

[halfmiler]

put a head on it and it could double as a roping dummy

[ray steele]

put a head on it and it could double as a roping dummy

halfmiler, and Ray Knightley etc.

imagine this if you can,

put a horseshoe on the item in discussion , pick up a hammer ,

could it work as a "stall jack"?

The man says it's easy to bring to the horse,must be portable,

the man says that he shapes horseshoes on it,

the man does/did not call it an anvil,

what makes it not a stalljack?

Regards

Ray Steele

[Ray_Knightley]

halfmiler, and Ray Knightley etc.

imagine this if you can,

put a horseshoe on the item in discussion , pick up a hammer ,

could it work as a "stall jack"?

The man says it's easy to bring to the horse,must be portable,

the man says that he shapes horseshoes on it,

the man does/did not call it an anvil,

what makes it not a stalljack?

Regards

Ray Steele

Don`t get me wrong ...I like the look of it!!
The only thing is it is hard to see the size ...we used a triangel 2" steel plate with 3 legs weight about 4kg stands about 6 " off the ground for years ,I have a square plate with a hole and two upsided down horseshoes for legs now..

it would be good to put a everyday object next to the Jack here as ,reference to size ....in germany that would in most cases be a beer bottle-

[Bradley-1stChoice]

The only thing is it is hard to see the size ...
it would be good to put a everyday object next to the Jack here as ,reference to size ....in germany that would in most cases be a beer bottle-
Ray,
He said he made it out of 2" plate which makes it, by looks, 6 " wide and 14" long . . . :p

[ray steele]

Nice, but at 50lbs + it is more like an anvil, sortta . . . :confused:

I thought a stall Jack was meant to be portable.

I am surprised it doesn't have a small, rocker toe attachment. :p

Bradley,


does that thinking mean that the Cliff Carrol 35 lb Anvil advertised in the marketplace is not an anvil , but a stalljack?

regards

Ray steele

[halfmiler]

Mr,Steele,i imagine one could shape shoes on that contraption but it just dont seem to me like its a verry portable nor time savining device, but thats my opintion and you know what they say about opinions dont you? they are like as$ holes,everyone has one.

[Cyber Farrier]

Philosophically, you may be getting a little too "deep" for us, Ray.... :rolleyes:

Baron

[halfmiler]

in a bind ive used a hammer i made in highschool from 2in soild square stock 4in long welded to a piece of 1 1/2 solid round bar stock for a stall jack,turning heels is hard but in a bind you can shape a shoe on it to a extent.

[smitty88]

whats the big deal there is a lot that cant use a anvil
never mind a stall jack no matter what size it is:eek:

[Ray_Knightley]

Ray,
He said he made it out of 2" plate which makes it, by looks, 6 " wide and 14" long . . . :p

One second after posting the post I saw the 2" ...Thanks Bradley..

Why is a stall Jack called a stall Jack???

[Ray_Knightley]

whats the big deal there is a lot that cant use a anvil
never mind a stall jack no matter what size it is:eek:

very True words here:)

[Bradley-1stChoice]

Why is a stall Jack called a stall Jack???
'Cause you gonna take it to the stall . . .

. . . Jack. :p

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[Tyler Anderson]

i think that your work on the stall jack is nice. i think its a bit large for my taste in a stalljack just a little big. but it has some very nice features if you are willing to lug it around or if you have a helper to do it for you