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Spyrockman
06-05-2009, 11:43 PM
Does anyone know about these special Icelandic shoes? I just started doing these little horses, and the owner says that they need these special shoes and has no info on them. Any help, Thanks :)

Ronald Aalders
06-06-2009, 01:12 AM
Just regular toe clipped and quarterclipped shoes. Pay attention to the rules in the Icelandic book of Icelandics (or whatever they call their Rule book).

They have strict rules on shoe thickness. No pads, no modifications, not thicker than 10 mm (3/8"). But check this my memory is fading :D

That by the way is why I never paid too much attention to Icelandics, because of the rules there is no way you can really help a horse out in their required gaits. In other words: BORING :p



Ronald Aalders

Thomas_Ride&Drive
06-06-2009, 03:50 AM
Though I personally don't like the breed, they have a lot of fans near me. I've a couple of friends who are near neighbours that are BIG into Icelandic ponies and including the Patron of their Breed Society over here, Lord Joicy who has a big herd of them at Etal Manor which is just down the road and also in the Pentlands

http://www.phicelandics.co.uk/pentland%20hills%20icelandics.htm

They've not got any special shoeing protocol at all and I know for certain that theirs are considered to be very good stock and win frequently all over the place.

John Emsley
06-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Does anyone know about these special Icelandic shoes? I just started doing these little horses, and the owner says that they need these special shoes and has no info on them. Any help, Thanks
I have shod several and found them to be pleasant little horses. As has been said, they require NO SPECIAL shoeing, but if the owner thinks/says they do, you either go along with it or are replaced. :cool: The "Tolt", a pace by any other name, is bred into them and they naturally pick it up unless you interfere by trying to get fancy. Once I was asked if I could duplicate the shoeing found on one that had just come in from an "expert Icelandic stable". What I saw was a cowboy shoeing job, straight out of the box with "Bronco Lites" and poorly installed, but then it was from an expert, so how could I possibly match that. :rolleyes::) The exotic breeds are fine but often the owners live in "never, never land"
John

Ray_Knightley
06-06-2009, 07:02 PM
I would start with just plan 8mm thick shoes fronts and back
good rolled toe and balanced hooves (as ever)
Then you need to ask the rider what is going on is the animal dropping out of the tolt alot into pass then you could need weight up front ,but only a in 100gramm or 2mm no more .also setting the toe of the shoe a little forward helps some ...
you need to work together with the rider or trainer some ...

most islantics are well balanced and in good shape ....i amtold the others are eaten..
they make up some of the most exspencive horses around do not under rate their talents because they are breed to work and to stop folk starving ...

Spyrockman
06-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Thanks for the info everyone, maybe the owner will send me to iceland to learn how to properly shoe them:] He was forging at every step before I did him. He went to a show and was used as a example for how Icelandics should move so I guess that I did ok. Thanks

Ray_Knightley
06-07-2009, 06:21 AM
Thanks for the info everyone, maybe the owner will send me to iceland to learn how to properly shoe them:] He was forging at every step before I did him. He went to a show and was used as a example for how Icelandics should move so I guess that I did ok. Thanks

In iceland they just bang them on cold ,a few client i have fly over now and again ....

That sounds really great ..your horse as example :)

Donnie Walker
06-07-2009, 11:54 AM
2.3.3 Shoes
If horses are shod all four feet should be shod. The only shoes allowed are those that
are made for the purpose of serving as a shoe on a horse. All four shoes have to be
made of the same material. The material used must not exceed the specific weight of
standard iron4. The shoe may have a maximum thickness of 10.0 mm and width of
23.0 mm (wear and tear included), and must be of an even shape.
The judges’ decision about the acceptance of any shoe at a specific event is final for
that specific event.
2.3.4 Position of the shoe
The shoe must not extend past the lengthened natural slant of the toe wall and at the
back past the perpendicular dropped from the bulbs of the heel.
2.3.5 Studs
Two ordinary studs per shoe, riveted, welded or screwed, one on each side of the
heel of the shoe, are allowed. A stud must not exceed the measurements 15.0 x 15.0
x 12.0 mm (l x w x h) and may only have a maximum of 4 welding spots. For studs
with a core, the core must not protrude more than 3.0 mm beyond the outer case.
2.3.6 Clips
Three clips of a maximum thickness of 2.0 mm are allowed per shoe. Clips that have
been welded are not allowed.
2.3.7 Reinforcement welds
Reinforcement welds are forbidden.
2.3.8 Leather and plastic rings and soles
Leather and synthetic rings or soles of a thickness of max. 5.0 mm and following the
shape of the shoe are allowed between hoof and shoe. When filling material and/or a
sole is used, a shoe of max. 8.0 mm thickness is allowed, otherwise a shoe of max.
10.0 mm is allowed. Apart from the filling material only one ring or sole per foot is
allowed. Reinforcements on the outside of the sole/ring in order to support the
specific function of the sole/ring are allowed.
Wedged soles are allowed, with a maximum thickness of 8.0 mm at the heels and a
maximum thickness of 2.0 mm at the toe, provided the hoof is in a correct angle to
the pastern and with a correct length of the toe.
The judges’ decision about the acceptance of any ring or sole at a specific event is
final for that specific event.
4 7850 kg/m3
FIPO 6.9/2009 E-19
2.3.9 Prohibited shoes, rings and soles
Prohibited shoes, rings or soles are shoes, rings or soles that are clearly designed for
another purpose other then riding horses.
In addition to this general rule the Sport Committee maintains a list of shoes, rings or
soles that are not allowed for specific reasons. The list includes a description and a
picture of the specific shoe, ring or sole. The list is published on the FEIF website.
To have a specific shoe, ring or sole added to the list of prohibited shoes, rings or
soles, national Sport Leaders, members of the FEIF Sport Committee and FEIF
Licensed International Sport Judges can make a proposal to the FEIF Sport
Committee. A clear description, clear picture and proper reasoning should
accompany such a request. The Sport Committee will review all requests at least
three times a year, unless there is a reason for a decision on short notice.
The Annual Sport Meeting can decide to remove shoes, rings or soles from the list of
prohibited shoes, rings or soles.

Ray_Knightley
06-07-2009, 12:23 PM
sadly all the rules does not stop people putting so called training shoes on with a full steel plate ,heavy enough to make the difference in the action ,and then taking them off on the same day as the show or a day before.....