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hotrodiesel
05-23-2009, 06:26 PM
Does anyone know the approximate size of this shoe, and,or, how far off center to mark it,if any at all? It is one of the 6 shoes that was on the convention shoe list. 10 1/2"x5/16x1". Mine seem to be coming out to big. And are you bumping the lateral branch?
Thank you,
Dan
hotrodiesel
05-23-2009, 09:06 PM
I went out there and made another one tonite(3rd one).
I learned a few tricks about the shoe. Main one being to
draw the side clip before the toe clip. I did the toe clip
first and it was in the way of drawing my side clip so it
got all FUBARed. I think I got my measurements figured out.
Any critique would be great. My computer won't recognize
my new camera so had to use the phone.:mad::mad:
Dan
http://horseshoes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9374&stc=1&d=1243127054
http://horseshoes.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=9375&stc=1&d=1243127259
Ronald Aalders
05-24-2009, 06:15 AM
I appreciate these are forging excercises, nicely done too. But I always wondered if the prescribed shapes shouldn't be more realistic.
The slope looking at the foot side starts really early, close to the nail holes that is. When a horse would be shod with this type of shoe it would only serve to flare the lateral side of the foot since it would slide down that slope when a horse puts weight on it. Leaving the nails loose as a result by the way.
Looking at the ground side it struck me that the lateral support starts really far forward. It would interfere with breakover that way. I would like to see the lateral width start at the first nail hole.
But these remarks are not about the forging! Just the practicality (is that english?) of those shoes.
Ronald Aalders
Joey Aczon
05-24-2009, 08:00 AM
I don't know about you Ron, but when it's needed that shoe shape is awful useful. Mostly on bad fetlock varus cases where the horse seems too fall over the foot at the lateral toe just before breakover.
Hot Rod, I don't know what the book calls for, but on extension shoes I always follow the inside web while fullering and try to match the other side of the shoe. Looks like you shot right down the middle.
Bill Lansing
05-24-2009, 09:59 AM
Does anyone know the approximate size of this shoe, and,or, how far off center to mark it,if any at all? It is one of the 6 shoes that was on the convention shoe list. 10 1/2"x5/16x1". Mine seem to be coming out to big. And are you bumping the lateral branch?
Thank you,
Dan
How far did you end up marking it off center? Looks good except the fullering on the lateral branch.
hotrodiesel
05-24-2009, 10:05 AM
Ron, I am just trying to follow what the picture looks like.
Bill and Joey, I did get it fullered to fine on the lateral branch.
And I marked it right in the center(5 1/4") bumped the lateral
slightly(which not sure is needed). After I got my inside drawn
I came up with 12" To get my corner from the set down I put the center mark of the shoe 3/8" from where ir is set down. I am going to make some more today.
Dan
Tennessee
05-24-2009, 11:08 AM
Here is the one Chris Gregory made at the convention. I have tried it and I marked the stock 3/8 to 1/2 off center. You have to measure off the inside for your fullering. Yours looks WAY better than mine did.
http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=3&pictureid=9
Jason Maki
05-24-2009, 12:21 PM
I,ve made a few of these, and I just mark center, bump a bit in and set down there. When i.m done drawing down the extension starts at about the first nail hole. Not sure if thats what the shoe is supposed to be by the numbers, but that makes a functional shoe I have nailed.
Jason
hotrodiesel
05-24-2009, 12:27 PM
Actually, in the picture, the set down is even closer to the center. I agree for funtion it would be better to have it closer to the first nail hole. This shoe is for a contest,so, I have to go by the pic.:o
Joey Aczon
05-24-2009, 05:08 PM
oooh oooh, can I play too?! I used 3/8" x 1" since I don't have 5/16" x 1" and I didn't feel like bumping.
http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=185&pictureid=1465
I screwed it up all over the place. 4 nails on ext side, toe clip to the medial, creased/punched the wrong side, side clip too small, pinched the stock at the set down (on both sides of the set down, I should have cut it with my creaser in the vice first), and just a poor shape.
It was a fun shoe to make though. :D
hotrodiesel
05-24-2009, 05:18 PM
oooh oooh, can I play too?! I used 3/8" x 1" since I don't have 5/16" x 1" and I didn't feel like bumping.
http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=185&pictureid=1465
I screwed it up all over the place. 4 nails on ext side, toe clip to the medial, creased/punched the wrong side, side clip too small, pinched the stock at the set down (on both sides of the set down, I should have cut it with my creaser in the vice first), and just a poor shape.
It was a fun shoe to make though. :D
Good job Joey! It takes a few to get it figured out. It is fun to make.
I think we should do this once a week.
Dan
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