Re: sorry fingers got away from me...

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: : : : : this might get loner than I plan, but I hope not. : : : : : I have 32 month old filly App/TB she is rather large in size, for this reason she has only been backed a few times for a walk. Anyway, she has a couple of issues with her front end *I dropped the ball and over protiened her* So she now toes out from her ankles down. Im lucky the damage was not worse and this is all I have to deal with! : : : : : Ok, this is what Im dealing with now. because she toes out her hoof growth is odd, grows more on the outside then the inside and of course she wings a bit. Not a big deal and something that we can live with. BUT, for some reason I canNOT get through to my farrier that straightening her leg is not what she needs, she needs level balanced feet. *honestly I may need a new farrier* She travels clean barefoot, but because of her leg angles she needs shoes to prevent poor wearing and breakover. I had him put the lightest steel possible on her, she will eventually wear aluminums. : : : : But not until after next Spring when we ready for the show ring. : : : : On to bigger and more annoying problem, she constantly pulls off her shoes, she over reaches a bit because she is very high behind and squaring off her toes works for a short time but eventually they are coming off, usually by the end of the third week or beginning of the fourth. So my farrier got a bit touchy on this subject too and whacked off her toes so far back that I thought he would sore her. : : : : This time, she pulled one off in three days. Weird thing is, there is never damage to the foot, nails come out clean. : : : : If you can think of anything for her front feet *I'm sure he hasen't tried it all* and what do you think about the rear? I open for any and all input. If there is anything I didn't cover *which I'm sure there is* just ask. : : : : Thanks so much for any advise. : : : : Lisa : : : Lisa, : : : perhaps he could try one or more of the following: extended heels on the hind shoes, rockered toes on the fronts, alum. on the front/steel behind, clips on shoes and set hot, over-reach boots 24/7, absolutely clean paddocks (nothing to paw shoes off), training to get her to extend a bit rather than collect so hard if that is the cause.....first you need to determine when/how she is pulling shoes...hopefully this helps you some : : : Derin : : Derin, : : Thank you for responding so qiuckly! : : She is not being ridden *only at a walk a few times*, so at this point heavy collection isnt a problem. And I don't bit on the lunge line. She only pulls her shoes at play, actng goofy out in the big field. When she is in the smaller field without playmates she seems to hold on to her shoes. : : She doesn't wear shoes on the rear. Do you think putting rear shoes on her would help or make the problem worse? : : I am currently looking for a new farrier. Hopefully one that is willing to watch her go for a few minutes before he starts. : : Also, when she does pull a shoe, she never does any other damage...IE: never hits the bulbs of her heel, actually, never so much as a bruise there. So, she's *as far as I can tell* is only hitting the shoe. I wish I could put a photo up to better explain what I am trying to say. : : Thanks again, : : Lisa : Hi Lisa, : yes, rear shoes might help.......also spooned heels on the fronts if properly applied may help as well....I think over-reach boots might be your best option to try first : watching the horse before shoeing is often a good idea, especially with problem cases.....remember, the hind feet don't have to miss the fronts by much, they just have to miss :) : good luck ~~~~~ Derin