Re: Liming stalls........

Posted by Eileen Hughes on August 31, 2003 at 19:39:31:

In Reply to: Re: Liming stalls........ posted by Gary on August 31, 2003 at 11:58:21:

: : : : : : : Is there any research out there that points to a negative impact of using lime in stalls as far as hoofwall integrity is concerned? A customer of mine limes heavily (no bedding) and I can't help but think this might be having a negative impact on her horses' feet since most of them are averrage to poor in hoof quality.

: : : : : : : Any input?
: : : : : : I have always wondered the same thing. The accepted method of disposing of an unwanted corpse is to bury it with a sack of lime so how good can it be for a horses feet?
: : : : : : : Derin

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: : : : : When I first moved to this area 34 years ago there was a cement plant south of town that by their own figures was dumping 100 tons per day of cement dust out of their smokestack.I could recognize a horse living downwind of that plant by looking at his feet. Dry, brittle and crumbly. I would guess that lime would act in much the same way.

: : : : : Jack

: : : : Who hasn't that has worked with horses not cleaned and mucked out stalls? To strip a stall and then spread out lime with the shavings and bedding on top is an OK thing to do! Heck I have OLD TIMERS that use lime on proud flesh that works wonders! I use lime on the bottom of my stalls and my horses feet have no reaction to it because of the bedding on top. I would never use it without the bedding! Cuts the urine smell and kills the bacteria in the ground! Of course good husbandry is followed! JMO, Gary

: : : I lime my stalls maybe once a week sometimes every two weeks and not heavy and as Gary said it is under the shavings. I have never had a problem. I did have a client once that a vet noticed the horses feet were in bad shape especially the frogs and blamed the problem on lime, they limed very heavy everyday and used very little shavings. I was told it burned there feet and was doing damage. Thats the only time I have ever heard anything negative. I guess as the old saying goes, to much of anything can be bad.

: : : Phil

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: : Hello Phil, Heard along the way that liming stalls can cause a mare in foal to lose the foal. Other than that when used with a little common sense it has some benefits.

: : steve bromley

: One of the worst things for a broodmare is to be stall kept, turnout is the overall best thing for a mare in foal. JMO. Gary

When we add lime to our gardens and pastures it's to change the ph balance (right?)....so I assume it does something similar to horses foot, which may be why the horses feet are falling apart. Skin with it's ph out of balance will get yucky too.

Eileen Hughes

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: : : : : : : : Is there any research out there that points to a negative impact of using lime in stalls as far as hoofwall integrity is concerned? A customer of mine limes heavily (no bedding) and I can't help but think this might be having a negative impact on her horses' feet since most of them are averrage to poor in hoof quality. : : : : : : : : Any input? : : : : : : : I have always wondered the same thing. The accepted method of disposing of an unwanted corpse is to bury it with a sack of lime so how good can it be for a horses feet? : : : : : : : : Derin : : : : : : : : : : : : When I first moved to this area 34 years ago there was a cement plant south of town that by their own figures was dumping 100 tons per day of cement dust out of their smokestack.I could recognize a horse living downwind of that plant by looking at his feet. Dry, brittle and crumbly. I would guess that lime would act in much the same way. : : : : : : Jack : : : : : Who hasn't that has worked with horses not cleaned and mucked out stalls? To strip a stall and then spread out lime with the shavings and bedding on top is an OK thing to do! Heck I have OLD TIMERS that use lime on proud flesh that works wonders! I use lime on the bottom of my stalls and my horses feet have no reaction to it because of the bedding on top. I would never use it without the bedding! Cuts the urine smell and kills the bacteria in the ground! Of course good husbandry is followed! JMO, Gary : : : : I lime my stalls maybe once a week sometimes every two weeks and not heavy and as Gary said it is under the shavings. I have never had a problem. I did have a client once that a vet noticed the horses feet were in bad shape especially the frogs and blamed the problem on lime, they limed very heavy everyday and used very little shavings. I was told it burned there feet and was doing damage. Thats the only time I have ever heard anything negative. I guess as the old saying goes, to much of anything can be bad. : : : : Phil : : : : : : Hello Phil, Heard along the way that liming stalls can cause a mare in foal to lose the foal. Other than that when used with a little common sense it has some benefits. : : : steve bromley : : One of the worst things for a broodmare is to be stall kept, turnout is the overall best thing for a mare in foal. JMO. Gary : When we add lime to our gardens and pastures it's to change the ph balance (right?)....so I assume it does something similar to horses foot, which may be why the horses feet are falling apart. Skin with it's ph out of balance will get yucky too. : Eileen Hughes

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