Re: white line disease--PS

Posted by Erin Pearson on April 23, 2002 at 09:55:44:

In Reply to: Re: white line disease--PS posted by Hermen Geertsema DVM on January 30, 2001 at 00:26:42:

: : : : : : It is apparent that wet conditions predispose to WLD. I cannot get from the bulletin board, however, a sense of frequency of the condition in habitually shod vs. habitually unshod horses. I'm sure you all have opinions, and I should be interested to hear. jrooney

: : : : : Dr. Rooney,

: : : : : In the rural areas of Wisconsin, East Central Minnasota, I find 80% of the horses with some type of wall/horn seperation. In time if left untreated you will start to see the white cheeze horn and the ordor of the yeast or fungus infection. The more rain, the more the infection advances. It is about the same in shod or unshod horses.

: : : : : Most of the horse that I do, do live in very sanitary conditions.

: : : : : Ray Miller

: : : : Thank you, Ray. I have learned that you are the one person, farrier or vet, that can be counted on for quick and forthright answers. Thanks. jrooney

: : : I should have posted unsanitary conditions. And thank you.

: : : Ray Miller

: : I am not sure that I can agree that wet conditions predispose a hoof to WLD. At least not in my experiance.

: : I also shoe in Wisconsin. We have heavy dew almost every morning, as well as this year has been a wet year, with record amounts on rain in May and June. My own pasture is about 1/2 marsh, so my own horses are in the water every day. My horses don't seem to have any WLD problems. I suppose now that I have said that, I will be spending tomorrow cutting off hoof walls.

: : The WLD that I have seen in the last few years has been on horses that have drier pastures, and are stalled every night. The barns where these horses live are cleaned every day, and the horses are well cared for. But, the fact is that they still live 50 to 60% of their lives in a stall. Not out where they can get their feet washed in water or mud.

: : Lee Sackett

: Where we are on the coast in SW BC, Canada (the NW to you guys)it rains all winter. I find less of it in horses that are barefoot and on the move than in horses that are confined whether they have shoes or not. The exception is donkeys which all seem to have it. The late Burney Chapman was particularly interested in this disease and said he had seem it in donkeys in desert countries. I can't remember if he did or could quantify the prevalence relative to other climates.
: In my opinion frequency of trimming and/or constant natural wear is what keeps this to a minimum in barefoot horses as opposed to keeping the same covered surface for 6 weeks at a time. By putting a herd of donkeys on a weekly maintenance program along with Tea Tree Oil we have almost eliminated the problem which was endemic in the herd for many years prior. We have some very dedicated owners here!

: Dr Geertsema

I am new to WLD and interested in the Tea TRee Oil treatment. How often do you apply it and do you just apply it on the white line or elsewhere also? Do you use straight Tea Tree Oil or dilute it with anything?
Erin Pearson

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: : : : : : : It is apparent that wet conditions predispose to WLD. I cannot get from the bulletin board, however, a sense of frequency of the condition in habitually shod vs. habitually unshod horses. I'm sure you all have opinions, and I should be interested to hear. jrooney : : : : : : Dr. Rooney, : : : : : : In the rural areas of Wisconsin, East Central Minnasota, I find 80% of the horses with some type of wall/horn seperation. In time if left untreated you will start to see the white cheeze horn and the ordor of the yeast or fungus infection. The more rain, the more the infection advances. It is about the same in shod or unshod horses. : : : : : : Most of the horse that I do, do live in very sanitary conditions. : : : : : : Ray Miller : : : : : Thank you, Ray. I have learned that you are the one person, farrier or vet, that can be counted on for quick and forthright answers. Thanks. jrooney : : : : I should have posted unsanitary conditions. And thank you. : : : : Ray Miller : : : I am not sure that I can agree that wet conditions predispose a hoof to WLD. At least not in my experiance. : : : I also shoe in Wisconsin. We have heavy dew almost every morning, as well as this year has been a wet year, with record amounts on rain in May and June. My own pasture is about 1/2 marsh, so my own horses are in the water every day. My horses don't seem to have any WLD problems. I suppose now that I have said that, I will be spending tomorrow cutting off hoof walls. : : : The WLD that I have seen in the last few years has been on horses that have drier pastures, and are stalled every night. The barns where these horses live are cleaned every day, and the horses are well cared for. But, the fact is that they still live 50 to 60% of their lives in a stall. Not out where they can get their feet washed in water or mud. : : : Lee Sackett : : Where we are on the coast in SW BC, Canada (the NW to you guys)it rains all winter. I find less of it in horses that are barefoot and on the move than in horses that are confined whether they have shoes or not. The exception is donkeys which all seem to have it. The late Burney Chapman was particularly interested in this disease and said he had seem it in donkeys in desert countries. I can't remember if he did or could quantify the prevalence relative to other climates. : : In my opinion frequency of trimming and/or constant natural wear is what keeps this to a minimum in barefoot horses as opposed to keeping the same covered surface for 6 weeks at a time. By putting a herd of donkeys on a weekly maintenance program along with Tea Tree Oil we have almost eliminated the problem which was endemic in the herd for many years prior. We have some very dedicated owners here! : : Dr Geertsema : I am new to WLD and interested in the Tea TRee Oil treatment. How often do you apply it and do you just apply it on the white line or elsewhere also? Do you use straight Tea Tree Oil or dilute it with anything? : Erin Pearson

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