Re: Then what the heck is this? - photos

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: : : : : : : Hello All, : : : : : : : Here are Scott's photos: : : : : : : : the best I can tell from the photos is med/lat imbalance from inside heel to outside toe/quarter hole.( diagionally across the hoof ) had to look at it in shoers position .left or rt handed?.epsom salt soaks= 5 parts water to one part e.salt then dry it. Iodine soaks are to harsh, plug it with sugardine and go from there with the shoe of your choice and where are the other three hooves in relation to this one? best of luck, address the toe crack = back the toe up first, ..helps to add photos though doesn't it? I know ,I know, back to the kitchen! ch Hi Baron :-) : : : : : It looks a bit messy to have been : : : : : WLD alone unless your dremel got : : : : : a bit wild or those are iodine : : : : : stains im seeing. Anyway it does'nt : : : : : look so bad and should heal up very : : : : : nicely if its kept clean, dry and : : : : : protected. The rest of the foot looks : : : : : strong enough to pull it through. I agree : : : : : with Burten about a bar and breakover. : : : : : And you could'nt pay me enough to : : : : : patch that foot with acrylic or : : : : : anything else that dries hard, : : : : : seals out air and seals in : : : : : whatevers left in there : : : : : to breed. : : : : Hi Scott. It probably is some fungal and/or bacterial infection that wormed it's way under the wall. I would not do any type soaking that involves a water base, as that will soften the tissues and allow more bacterial access to the underlying areas. : : : : The heels still seem a bit tall in the photo.If so, that will be stressing the toe areas and may be causing or exaserbating the splits and separation. I see there is still some noticeable flakey old sole material in the heel area of the foot between the bars and wall. Go ahead and carefully trim that all out until you clearly reveal the layer of shiny live sole way back there. That is your live sole plane. Be sure to leave the bars intact when you do this. Use the knife in a vertical position so you pare with the tip only to avoid whacking out the bars. . Then rasp the heel wall back more until you get the wall down to 1/8" from the live sole plane sole to the ground at the heels. Getting the wall equally trimmed to the sole plane will address any medial lateral imbalance you have. : : : : Be careful if you have already trimmed the front of the foot to the sole to not get the areas over the toe corners too thin. This is a very common mistake. I always trim only the rear of the foot before I go to the front to avoid this problem. : : : : Then shoe with a bar shoe and if you feel the need, clips where appropriate. Make sure to add some frog suppor to the bar shoe, at least at the rear portion of the frog. A little frog support plate inside th web of the shoe works well and is easy. You can even weld one in if you can't forge it in. : : : : I treat all the suspect areas with a formalin based product. I have great luck out here with Thrush Buster and besides it is purple and you can see where it has penetrated when you go back and pare around in the affected areas. : : : : Patty : : : : : : : : : I am a little late getting to this but I agree with Rick. Looks like you still need to debride alittle more of the infected area out. As with Rick I would use a heartbar and have owner keep clean and dry. You can use thrush buster, merthiolate, or fungidye. At each reset you need to keep a good watch to see if you need to debride any more infected area out. But I would have a shoe on it and I would chose a heartbar at this time. Clean, dry, open to air and light. Heartbar and makesure you get all the infected area removed. : : : Just some thoughts. : : : Allen : : ;; : : ;I still stick to an epsomsalt flush in the effected area, patch it up with sugardine with duct tape ,(keep it clean and dry, "soak and plug"=poor choice of words on my part) call a Veterniarian to consult especially if a tetnus shot may be required and further assistance with this subject, ch : Soaking this foot will only weaken the wall and further exacerbate the problem. How could one possibly keep the area clean and dry if one is patching it with a wet solution(i.e.: sugardine?) At least the advise to keep it clean and dry is correct. Contacting the vet to keep him/her "in the loop" is always a good idea, but based on the photos, no veterinary intervention is required at this time. Just proper support shoeing, and owner aftercare. : Rick