Re: Foundered Mare (grass)

Posted by M. W. Myers, D.V.M. on May 06, 2001 at 11:27:38:

In Reply to: Re: Foundered Mare (grass) posted by Steve Bromley on May 05, 2001 at 13:57:48:

: : : : : I have been trimming this mare for about six months, a large quarter horse with deep chest and steep shoulder. It is a chore to get her feet off the ground in front. Today I just could not take the pain I see in her any more and put front shoes on her with pads. Put Sole Pak under the pads. While trimming the front feet about one half to three quarters of an inch forward of the apex of the frog there was a crescent of blood in the sole, lamina separation in the toe was under one half of an inch. Left the heels long and set the shoes back about a quarter of an inch from the foreward edge of the toe. I am concerned that there is more rotation than what the spread of the lamina seems to indicate. Yet when standing the mare kept rocking forward on her toes like she was heel sore. Any thoughts, comments appreciated. Thanks in Advance

: : : : : steve

: : : : You really need radiogrphs on a horse like this. Because it is spring you should also have a vet check the horse with you.

: : : : Just my thinking.

: : : : Ray Miller

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: : : I do not like to leave the heels. I feel that you need to go ahead and trim the heels. Then if you need to raise them back up you do that with the shoe, pad, however you need to. But you dont do it with the foot itself. As ray said I would request radiographs and have the vet run some tests as will.
: : : Allen
: : P.S. You may also think about useing impression material in the back of the foot. But first the radiographs need to be done.
: : Allen

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: Thank You for your comments, will see what I can do about getting the owner have a vet out while I am there.
: steve

You need an experienced veterinarian to this mare very soon. These horses that tend to "rock forward" as they stand on their laminitic hooves can be very difficult to resolve. Most of these I see are Cushingoid and require a lot of work to stabilize. This owner has already waited far too long to expect a very good outcome from the damage that has occurred in these hooves.

In the future, in order to fully protect yourself, you should insist on veterinary intervention in these cases. If the owner refuses, then walk away. You may work on one of these cases for several months and then get blamed and sued for the poor outcome.

M. W. Myers, D.V.M.

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: : : : : : I have been trimming this mare for about six months, a large quarter horse with deep chest and steep shoulder. It is a chore to get her feet off the ground in front. Today I just could not take the pain I see in her any more and put front shoes on her with pads. Put Sole Pak under the pads. While trimming the front feet about one half to three quarters of an inch forward of the apex of the frog there was a crescent of blood in the sole, lamina separation in the toe was under one half of an inch. Left the heels long and set the shoes back about a quarter of an inch from the foreward edge of the toe. I am concerned that there is more rotation than what the spread of the lamina seems to indicate. Yet when standing the mare kept rocking forward on her toes like she was heel sore. Any thoughts, comments appreciated. Thanks in Advance : : : : : : steve : : : : : You really need radiogrphs on a horse like this. Because it is spring you should also have a vet check the horse with you. : : : : : Just my thinking. : : : : : Ray Miller : : : : : : : I do not like to leave the heels. I feel that you need to go ahead and trim the heels. Then if you need to raise them back up you do that with the shoe, pad, however you need to. But you dont do it with the foot itself. As ray said I would request radiographs and have the vet run some tests as will. : : : : Allen : : : P.S. You may also think about useing impression material in the back of the foot. But first the radiographs need to be done. : : : Allen : : : : Thank You for your comments, will see what I can do about getting the owner have a vet out while I am there. : : steve : You need an experienced veterinarian to this mare very soon. These horses that tend to "rock forward" as they stand on their laminitic hooves can be very difficult to resolve. Most of these I see are Cushingoid and require a lot of work to stabilize. This owner has already waited far too long to expect a very good outcome from the damage that has occurred in these hooves. : In the future, in order to fully protect yourself, you should insist on veterinary intervention in these cases. If the owner refuses, then walk away. You may work on one of these cases for several months and then get blamed and sued for the poor outcome. : M. W. Myers, D.V.M.

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